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º Read ½ Chapterhouse: Dune by Frank Herbert Ð Fifteen Thousand Years After Leto II S Death The Remnants Of The Bene Gesserit Contend With The Ruthless Leaders Of An Alien Culture To Forge A New Civilization And Preserve The Best Of The Old Empire The Desert Planet Arrakis, Called Dune, Has Been Destroyed The Remnants Of The Old Empire Have Been Consumed By The Violent Matriarchal Cult Known As The Honored Matres Only One Faction Remains A Viable Threat To Their Total Conquest The Bene Gesserit, Heirs To Dune S PowerUnder The Leadership Of Mother Superior Darwi Odrade, The Bene Gesserit Have Colonized A Green World On The Planet Chapterhouse, And Are Turning It Into A Desert, Mile By Scorched Mile And Once They Ve Mastered Breeding Sandworms, The Sisterhood Will Control The Production Of The Greatest Commodity In The Known Galaxy The Spice Melange But Their True Weapon Remains A Man Who Has Lived Countless Lifetimes A Man Who Served Under The God Emperor Paul Muad Dib Buddy read with AthenaSeek freedom and become captive of your desires Seek discipline and find your liberty The Honoured Matres have returned with their full strength from the Scattering, and their fleets are assaulting all the worlds that once made up the old Empire at the core of the universe The nobility and the Ixians have fallen, and the one force resisting the relentless invasion is the now legendary sisterhood of the Bene Gesserit Heretics of Dune ended with one of the most dramatic and unexpected plot twists in science fiction, and this sequel takes up where the last book left off Unfortunately, the first eighty percent of this book were a total chore to get through Little or nothing happened, the setting and the characters were unremarkable and dull, and not even the writing was particularly good After having read those eighty percent, I wasor less ready to give this book a one star rating.
Even so, I m raising the whole book to three stars based solely on the short part in the end Frank Herbert has once again demonstrated his ability to write a boring book where nothing happens and then turn everything on its head in the end In an impressively fascinating way, I might add I was almost tempted to give up on the series on occasion while reading this, but after reading the ending there s absolutely no way I could do that.
As with much of Frank Herbert s other writing, Dune excluded, this one is a novel notable and worthy on the realm of ideas He never stints on ideas He might get slighly sloggish and lose the thread of the plot while we plod around in the ideas, but there s always great scenes and always great blow out reveals The original classic of Dune has none of these faults It is a classic and imminently readable from page one and is still my favorite book of all time.
So what about this one Is it worth reading for everyone else It s book 6 in the very impressive and automatically Epic series that encapsulates over five thousand years from the events of Dune, ending with the centric viewpoint of the Bene Gesserit after the tyranny of Paul s son and the great diaspora that scattered all the peoples of the galaxy after his death The planet Dune is effectively destroyed at the end of Heretics of Dune and only a single sandworm and some sandtrout was lifted from the planet to be the seed of a new place where the Spice can be produced This is especially important after the Bene Tleilaxu were also destroyed or partially submerged under the auspices of the Gesserit after the Honored Matres rampaged through the known universe This book takes up the new clones of Teg and Duncan, but mostly revolves around the conflicts between the Bene Gesserit and the Honored Matres Each side has taken prisoners and tries to subvert the captives The Bene Gesserit arethan slightlysuccessful at the task than the knock off Bene Gesserit Honored Matres, despite the others being wildlydominant and deadly in combat.
What we have is a novel that reminds me a great deal of the later Wheel of Time books with Egwaine in the White Tower, only, I have to point out that Chapterhouse Dune came out first We know that Jordan was a big fan of Dune and stole a tone of great ideas from Herbert, so this shouldn t be too surprising, but rather than a 5 6 enormous spread of books, Herbert accomplishes a success from below story in a single novel The teaching and the subversion is the real main story in Chapterhouse Don t let the cool space battles and space opera fool you This is a story of fantastic women doing fantastic things, the undisputed masters of the galaxy, and a massive conflict between the returning diaspora offshoot of the Bene Gesserit and the main line that stayed behind.
On that level, it s still a great tale despite my other issues with it.
Anything this complex and full of great observations about human nature, politics, and even love should not be discounted lightly It s super dense with fantastic ideas on every page and even though it will never be considered a standalone classic, it s a very, very worthy novel to read Especially in conjunction with Heretics of Dune And, I assume, Hunters of Dune and Sandworms of Dune carry on the tradition well since I m going to plow through them and continue the storyline set up here The cliffhanger at the end of Chapterhouse was a doozy Let s see if Herbert s son and Anderson make the ideas into somethingtraditional, eh I can hope They ve had a lot of practice in the universe before attempting the big one Herbert s death put a stop to the story and most of us fans were extremely upset Hell, I remember reading this book the first time in 89 and wishing I could have written the sequel to it I can t be alone in this I can only hope that expectations live up, etc.
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Unlike the previous books this one continues the plot line of the previous ones books 1 4 had definite endings, but book 5 did not So the Bene Gesserit pulled back to regroup and get ready for a counterattack The regrouping only took them 10 years to do so while the new menace appearing out of nowhere continued to capture or destroy their home bases Can we say after 5000 years of preparations the Bene Gesserit were not exactly ready Sure we can It is also completely unclear whether the new threat was a part of a fabled Golden Path Leto II never bothered to explain it or whether Frank Herbert has pulled it out of his ass to keep the series going I finally finished the series and the only emotion I feel is a great relief, otherwise I am completely drained by my efforts not to DNF this one Sufficient to say, I am not impressed The biggest problem for me was the complete lack of any even remotely interesting characters I became convinced Frank Herbert is unable to create a good character even if his life depended on it The only decent one was Paul in the first book That particular book became a classic of science fiction Coincidence I do not think so.
We have a conflict between two sides One side is a typical power hungry generic villain readers saw countless number of times practically everywhere and the other side consists of literally heartless cold bloodied automations who weeded all the emotions out of themselves during theirthan 5000 year history Those girls think nothing about sacrificing complete planets with their inhabitants when it suit them, by the way Is it any wonder I could not care less about anybody I already mentioned the atrocities committed by supposedly good guys I had to give it to the series though it makes a wonderful job of desensitizing the readers Sufficient to say I was not shocked by a child rape obviously committed in the name of a Greater Good after what I have seen before in the series To Herbert s credit after the previous book he realized nobody would care about completely emotionless characters, so some of them began rediscovering said emotions, but for me it was too little too late The vast majority of the novel is spent on philosophical ideas about government, bureaucracy, and other related high topics Too bad nobody remembered the little people who did the thankless job of providing comfortable living to the philosophers After all of the philosophizing I finally came to promised action on the last 70 pages To my complete disappointment it all happened behind the scenes which is not surprising because the rest of the book simply did not leave enough space for anything else Please note that I am not criticizing the fact that the tale stopped practically in the middle of a sentence as Frank Herbert died before he wrote the continuation The book and thus the series end in an unresolved cliffhanger There is a big lesson here if a writer ends a book with one, he she better have the next one with some resolution ready You might get hit by a bus sorry, but this is life , or just hit a writer block and you end up with an army of pissed off fans Speaking about cliffhangers this book is guilty of me changing the definition of the word A cliffhanger is when something ends in the middle of an action and you care about what happens next I already mentioned I could not care less about every single character in the book, so for me it was not a cliffhanger, just unresolved plot lines Now would be a good time to speak about the whole series I have to give a credit where it is due it makes a wonderful job in sense that you can stop after any book except book 5 and have a complete tale Do you want to read about Paul s struggle against the Emperor and Baron Harkonnen read the first book Do you want to have a conclusion of Paul s tale read first two books Do you want to have a conclusion of Atreides direct influence on Dune read first three books Do you want to see the conclusion of Dune tale read first four books By the way in case you have not figure this out this book has practically nothing in common with Dune books except for some names none of the action even takes place on that planet All I want to say here is that you will not have the right idea about Frank Herbert s idea about Dune if you stop after the first book like countless people did The first trilogy might serve though I finished the series and now like countless hipsters of sixtieth they were not called that then can annoy people around me by constantly saying, The spice must flow I earned this privilege by my hard work Speaking about which I now know that if you say this you miss the point of the series completely as it is not about the spice It sounds cool though first million times it was used after this it overstayed its welcome, just like the series after book 4.
Book 3 starsAudio CD 3 starsIn Dune, Frank Herbert achieved a near perfect balance of story, character and exposition In fact, the story and characters expressed the themes of the book, and Herbert avoided long, philosophical discursions Dune is a self contained novel needing no prequels or sequels However, Herbert hadto say and produced five further novels set in the Atreides Imperium that were interesting to the compulsively completist amongst us and I number myself one in this case but came no where near the power and passion of the original IMO, the series hit its nadir with God Emperor The two subsequent novels Heretics of Dune and the one under discussion recaptured a bit of that original power though they, too, suffered from far too much plodding, philosophical distractions.
For the most part, I like what Herbert has to say about politics, emotions, the role of history and other themes but they destroy the books pacing, threatening to turn them into Platonic dialogs rather than novels.
The plot It s several thousand years after the Tyrant s death The Old Empire fell, and humanity was Scattered, breaking the iron bonds of Leto s prescience and presumably ensuring Man s survival Now, elements of the Scattering are returning In particular, a group known as Honored Matres women who exhibit inhumanly fast deadly combat skills and enslave males through sexual domination Herbert never reveals their exact origins but they display Fish Speaker and Bene Gesserit origins, with perhaps a dash of Tleilaxu Whatever the case, they rampage through the Old Empire, destroying any opposition with insane orgies of violence that leave entire planets including Dune sterilized And the Bene Gesserit are the particular targets of their wrath.
The best aspect of these latter works is that we deal with an almost entirely new cast of characters, with the exception of the ubiquitous Duncan ghola Duncan Idaho was never a favorite character from earlier novels but I ve grown resigned to his presence in every book Farinteresting were the new characters, in particular two There s Miles Teg, a military genius and the BG s military leader He represents a further advance in the Atreides gene line, having the ability to see no ships and is able to function at superhuman speeds for brief periods of time faster even than Honored Matres Then there s Darwi Odrade another Atreides descendant , who eventually becomes Mother Superior and the architect of the plan that saves the BG from destruction at the hands of the Honored Matres.
I enjoyed the novel well enough in both is print and audio forms but I would recommend it only to those I mentioned above who need to know how things turn out.
I ll take this opportunity to close with a few comments on the abominations that Herbert s son, Brian, and his collaborator, Kevin Anderson, have produced I tried reading Dune House Atreides but the writing was so atrocious, I gave up in disgust From what I gather, I am not alone in my reaction For my money, the best post Dune, non Frank Herbert resource, if uncanonical, is Willis McNelly s The Dune Encyclopedia It s only failing is that it was published before Heretics or Chapterhouse so there are only a few, tantalizing entries discussing the post Leto universe, and we re forced to rely on the amateurish scribblings of Herbert fils and Anderson to complete the saga.
I am a reader who sometimes enjoys books that make me work hard This book this series is one of those I loved it, but I fully understand that not everyone will.
In addition to being one of the greatest science fiction sagas ever, the Dune Chronicles were a massive sociological thought experiment on Herberts part, and I for one am thankful he had the time to share his thoughts with us These books especially the later ones are the kind you have to put down from time to time to just think about and then re read the last few pages You will have to refer to the appendix for definitions and clarifications If you manage to finish all six books, you will find that parts of them come back to you unbidden years later, and you will pleasantly sit and wonder at the meaning of some passage and the vastness of Herberts imagination It s hard work, but as with most strenuous climbs up high mountains, the view from the top makes it all worth it.
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5 stars After loving the first five books in the series, I was a little disappointed in this last installment of the Dune Chronicles by Frank Herbert While I have always been a big fan of Herbert s heavy use of dialogue and philosophical argument to advance the themes of the story, I thought that its use in this volume was not as crisp and felt a bit too plodding That said, I did like it and it is certainly not a bad book, but it does suffer in comparison to the previous installments Now I have to decide if I am going to sample any of the subsequent novels by Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson.
This 6th and final book in the Dune saga that Frank Herbert wrote before his death in 1986 stands as one of the best in the entire series Many have complained that it doesn t go anywhere for the first 150 pages or so, but I think it does There are all of these seemingly unrelated plot threads that slowly but surely converge such that by the time you re halfway through the book, it all makes sense The last half of this book is a mixture of intrigue and action that left me breathless and unable to put the book down until I was finished The story here continues from the end of Heretics of Dune, with the Bene Gesserit hidden on their base planet of Chapterhouse, hiding and regrouping from the rampaging Honored Matres who hunt and slaughter them across the galaxy However, the Bene Gesserit soon deduce that the Honored Matres themselves are being hunted, driven back into the Known Galaxy from the outer depths of The Scatteringand who these mysterious hunters are is not known A desperate plan is conceived and ultimately carried out, but nothing goes as it was 100% planned and the resulting outcome leaves the two orders in shambles, merged together by force, with factions resisting, including some of the major players, who make their escape into the unknown Throughout all of this are glimpses of two mysterious and all powerful watchers who try to gather the most powerful of the renegades in their netwhat ends up happening read it to find out Chapterhouse Dune is famous for it s ending, which has been alternately called cliffhanger and open There has been raging debate over the intervening 25 years whether or not Frank Herbert intended to complete the saga with a 7th book, or leave it open ended and finished with Chapterhouse Dune This is bolstered by two argumentsthe short tribute to his wife that follows the final chapter she died a year before this was published and the fact that the mysterious watchers take the form of an elderly couple patterned after Frank and his wife Beverly Further muddying the waters are the two horrendous sequels Herbert s son and his hack writing partner Kevin Anderson published, supposedly based on an outline for Dune 7, the supposed sequel and wrap up to the saga, written by Frank Herbert and found in a safe deposit box after he died in 1986 I won t get into any spoilers here, but suffice to say that the fact that the VAST MAJORITY of the sequels tie in characters created and introduced in Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson s prequels, written YEARS after Frank died, and it s clear that, even though the outline may very well exist, they did not follow it one bit This becomes clearer after reading the sequels, and don t worry, I ll savage those books and reveal the lies from those two after I read them again and review them on here Thus, we are left with an open cliffhanger ending that is at the same time satisfying and frustrating This is a testament to Herbert s imagination and talent, howeverthe final chapter of Chapterhouse Dune is chilling and amusing and leads your imagination into a million what ifs about what happened next If only Frank could have lived longer and finished the saga if he ever indeed intended to , but we still have his 6 Dune books and all of the imagination spurring it provides, and isn t that really what we want out of the best fiction in literature Chapterhouse Dune was the last Dune novel that Frank Herbert completed and published before his death in 1986 Though he had written notes and the series would continue with his son Brian Herbert and Kevin J Anderson, most Dune fans regard the six Frank Herbert publications as the original Series After many books written since his death, pundits have stated that the only notes left is a post it note that says, writebooks In this installment the direction taken in Heretics of Dune, the fifth book in the series, published in 1984, continues with the Bene Gesserit front and center Heretics had followed a thousand five hundred year hiatus following the events in the fourth novel, God Emperor of Dune published in 1981 and had taken a new direction, resurrecting much of the intensity and charisma of the original The reign of the God Emperor, Leto II, son of Paul Muab Dib Atreides, has ended and the story has been taken up with political and economic intrigue between the Bene Gesserit and the Bene Tleilax and a new power, the Honored Matres Chapterhouse involves action between the Bene Gesserit and the rising power of the Honored Matres.
As literature, Chapterhouse Dune is inconsistent and unbalanced There are sections that collapse into a syrupy space opera melodrama and other parts that demonstrate some of Herbert s best writing Power attracts those who are corruptible muses Herbert and his Dune work represents an accomplished skill that highlights his remarkable powers of observation, detail and complex characterization It is these talents that keep a reader engaged when the plot wears thin Though it drags intolerably in places, Chapterhouse ends very well and makes me almost want to explore the continuations and explorations of the world building following Frank Herbert s untimely death.
If I had to rate the original six, making a mini listopia, I would do so as follows 1 Duneand a very distant2 Heretics of Dune3 Children of Dune4 Dune Messiah5 Chapterhouse Dune6 God Emperor of DuneIf I was asked for a recommendation, I cannot endorse the original 1965 publication higher, it is in a rare atmosphere, populated by such classics as Fahrenheit 451, Childhood s End and 1984 If you REALLY loved Dune, by all means read the series, but alas, gentle reader, as great a writer as Frank Herbert was, and he was, he never comes close to Dune again.
This is probably the best book so far in my opinion Excellent storyline and well written, and gripping to the end